Enamasti on nimetatud aadressil mingi suvaline asi(näiteks kohalik el.alajaam) ja nii saab tripist vaid ekskursioon. Vähe piinlik lugu on, aga olen sellise asja üle elanud, siis ei jäänud muud üle kui avalik netipunkt ette ja lähiümbruse rattaid kammima... .

kusjuures ei ole mingi el.alajaam. Selline asi hoopis: http://www.extra-cargo.com/index2.php

Kutid on roppumoodi vaeva näinud
Regasin ennast ära
Huvitav, mis edasi?
Huvitav oleks ka teada mitu kala nad niiviisi püüda suudavad kuus näiteks? Kas Eestis palju õnnetuid? Kuidas politsei reageerib?

hehee,

saatis järgmise kirja mulle: Ok. I will start the transaction right now. After you receive the confirmation you will have to log in to your account and accept it. Once is accepted you will receive the invoice with the details for payment. After you make the payment you have to update it so they can verify it and if everything is ok they will start the shipping process and the motorcycle will arrive at your address in 5 days.

PS: one more thing, they will send the motorcycle at the address that you have used for registration.

Kutid vist ei maga ka.

eks tüübid on teises ajavööndis ilmselt
nt: londonis on kell hetkel ainult 22:23 siin(luxis) 23:23 etc..

Huvitav, hetkel on mul siis ninaall see maksekorraldus. Huvitav, kas see deposiitfirma kodulehekülg ja kõik on siis vuffel vä?

anna lehtede aadressid

ja mis juttu neeger ajanud on?

Kui jälgid transa hindasid, siis on nad täitsa toimivad ja hästi seejuures. Lihtsalt see kellele raha saadad pole firma töötaja ja kui ilmneb et vend on nende uksi ka kulutamas käinud ja sõltumatuks usaldusmeheks möllinudki, siis peale raha saatmist ei ole teda koos sinu rahaga kuskil.

See "Shipping company" asub siis sellisel lehel: http://www.extra-cargo.com/index2.php

Hakkasin lõpuks talle ajama, et ei usalda mingeid selliseid firmasid ja pakkusin välja variandi, et mul sõber, kes elab Londonis, tuleb ise tsiklile järgi. Tahtsin talle käsiraha maksta 1/2 summast, et olen ikka kindel ostja jne Lootsin, et saan tema nime teada kuidagi moodi. Aga kutt algul mõtles ja siis ütles, et talle ikka nii ei sobi
Oleksin nime teada saanud, siis oleksin pöördunud politseisse ajaviiteks.

kirjutan niisama nüüd miks see transa sait on neegri oma...(et keegi õnge ei läheks)
nt veoautod on dhl-i pildiga ja see suur kaubalaev oli hoopis miskit muud(laeva tegelikke värve näed paremalt ülevalt lennuki tagant)...
samamoodi oli vasakul veel üks veoauto suvaline valge pilt...
kindlasti on sellel saidil neid põhjuseid küllaga veel
aga siin tõin välja vähesed

simp kirjutas:

kirjutan niisama nüüd miks see transa sait on neegri oma...(et keegi õnge ei läheks)
nt veoautod on dhl-i pildiga ja see suur kaubalaev oli hoopis miskit muud(laeva tegelikke värve näed paremalt ülevalt lennuki tagant)...
samamoodi oli vasakul veel üks veoauto suvaline valge pilt...
kindlasti on sellel saidil neid põhjuseid küllaga veel
aga siin tõin välja vähesed

Nii... Olulisem vast ikka see, et see domeen extra-cargo.com on esmakordselt registreeritud 4 nädalat tagasi (13 Aug 2006 15:26:19)....

copyright lehel aga räägib aastast 2000..

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Nii... Olulisem vast ikka see, et see domeen extra-cargo.com on esmakordselt registreeritud 4 nädalat tagasi (13 Aug 2006 15:26:19)....

Ja täpselt kuu aega hiljem on juba "account suspended". Ju siis ei läinud nii hästi, et teenusepakkujale arveid maksta.

Kah kokkupuude "afroameeriklasega" . www.motoscout24.de st leidin kuulutuse: Dragstar 1100, 2004, hind 4KEUR. Saatsin päringu ja vastuseks tuli:

Dear Sir ,

The bike is in top condition,unfallfrei and umfallfrei.I am the first owner.Because of a knee injury i must sell the bike (Aufgrund einer Knieverletzung muss ich das Motorrad leider Verkaufen).The total price is 4000 EUR ( shipping included ).It has all the documents,registration certificate in Germany.The deal will be made via MotoScout24 Sicherung Programm via Europe total safe and protected for both of us ! If you are interesed to buy the bike please contact me (WRITE IN ENGLISH).

Regards and i wait your e-mail

Saatsin maili edasi motoscout'i infomailile ja sain vastuseks:

Dear User,

thank you for your mail.

We are very sorry, that you got into contact with such a person, which
pretends to be interested into selling a car, but is only looking for gain
through illegal activities.

It is very difficult to completely stop these kinds of fake advertisements,
but we are working on it.
In the mean time, we put a warning out, under following address:
http://www.autoscout24.de/security
With the hope, that by the reading through honest people like you, we could
reduce these cases.

Again we realize, that the public access of our advertisements brings
advantages as well as disadvantages.

We wish you goold luck in finding a real good offer.
Best regards.

Praeguseks kuulutus kadunud

Hans

PS Tundub, et üheks võtmesõnaks on "Shipping Included"

Kuid negru on järjekindel - vaatamata kõigele julgeb ta mulle veel mailida:

Dear Sir ,

I bought the bike while I stayed in Germany.Now I stay in London / United Kingdom and the bike is here with me.The bike has german documents with german registration .
I will cover all the taxes for shipping ( the shipping is free to your home address ) .
The deal will be made via MotoScout24 Sicherung Programm via Europe a 100 % safe and legal way of making a transaction .The deal will be like that : You will transfer the money , MotoScout24 will put the money into a safe account from MotoScout24 Deutschland .After MotoScout24 will receive the payment confirmation they will start the deal and in 2 days you will receive the bike+all the documents+a sale contract.After that you have 5 days to test the bike and to decide if you want to keep or not the bike.After that you have to contact MotoScout24 and tell them your decistion about the bike .If you decide to keep the bike, MotoScout24 will give me the money .If you will not want to keep the bike then you will give the bike back to MotoScout24 (i pay the shipping back) and you will get all your money back.
To get the deal started i will need your full name and address for the shipping details and then MotoScout24 will contact you with the transaction details and also let me know in what language do you want to receive the transaction detalies ( english or german ) .

Regards and i wait your e-mail ,

Tuntud skeem endiselt

Hans

mulle tundub nendest kõikidest lugudest et võtmesõne shipping included ei ole ainus neist
alati on rattad PARIMAS korras jne
ja ka uued ning tüüp räägib üsna segast kõigepealt on saksamaal ja siis on UK-s jne

Terekest, siin äsja sai kirjutatud ühe nn neegriga

mina
Good day.
I´m still waiting for the pictures. And also have some more questions about the bike. Why are you selling it? Why so cheap- is it an US type bike? Where is the bike right now. And also can you send the VIN code of the bike so i can check if it´s possible to register it in Estonia. ALSO what´s the "hubraum " of the bike 1300 or 1800 or 750.

Best regards
Hendrik


mitza res to me

Hello,
The bike is very good and functione good and the bike never rally and never accident.
The bike now is in United Kingdom and the price included shipping.
The photo is attachment:
Contact me for finish this deal.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Free email at www.Z6.com ( and home of www.worldmap.com)

thank you for the pictures.
Unfortunately it´s not the type of bike i am looking for . So, thank you for the reply and good luck selling the bike.
Hendrik



mitza res to me
More options 10:59 am (3 hours ago)

why not buy my bike?

oi ma ei või, kuna ise hetkel maapeal töötav meremees siis tõi see viimane tema kiri kaasa ilusaid mälestusi aafrikast ja keskameerikast kus täpselt sama moodi küsiti nn. "buy present for family" "u not like my present ,why" i am u friend, i make very good price for u only for u" etc.

hetkel oli siis teemax honda vtx . Teine vtx 1300 teema on alles arutusel :D www.autoscout.de kuid kuna rääkisin ka juba sugulasest inglismaal siis kardan, et asi jääb katki

Aga ikkagi suured tänud Kommionule ja teistele kes ikka teada annavad sellistest skeemidest, sest kui ise koguaeg ei tegele müügi ega ostmisega siis kipuvad need vanad nipid ununema ja uusi tuleb ka aina juurde.
Terv
Ronrix

Neegrid on odavama otsa tsiklid ka ette võtnud selline pakkumine tuli 1990 aasta Kawa VN 750 peale, hinnaks 1600 euri...

Hello,
We will use a online service and i will explain you the steps of the transaction.
You can test the bike for 5 days ( i think is enough time to inspect and to decide if is a good bike) until i will take the money.
I want to do this deal in a safe way for the both of us. The safest way will be for this deal to be handle by an online service company like i have told you. This system provides protection for both buyer and seller. This is the safest and easiest way to do business. Let me explain how the online service system works.
1) The buyer and seller reach an agreement, and you must to register to www.OC-Eurotrans.com (i will place the transaction and after that you will check the transaction and you will approve it.)
2) The buyer pays the online service company
3) The seller is then notified to ship the item to the buyer (in my case the bike is in the online service and they after you will make the payment will shipp the bike to you)
4) The buyer receives and inspects the item, and agrees or refuses the item
5) The seller is paid by the company, if the buyers agrees to buy the item after inspecting it.
This way you can inspect the motorcycle before actually purchasing it. If you are not 100% satisfied with the motorcycle, you will inform the company and they will send you back your money. I cannot be paid until you are agree with the bike.
You can test the motorcycle in any way you want for 5 days, and if you are not satisfied with it, you will inform the company and they will inform me, and i will send the transport company to pick up the motorcycle from you.
I am sure that once you will get on this motorcycle you will fell in love with it.
The system i proposed is easy, fast and reliable.
This is the website of the company that will handle our deal.
http://www.OC-Eurotrans.com/
You can see the FAQ here http://www.OC-Eurotrans.com/?actionfiltered=faq
Like i have told you I all-ready sent them the bike and all the bike documents for inspection. They will also provide a legal frame to our deal.
Please e-mail me all your questions or concerns.
PS: I will pay all the company fees and you will pay only the price of the bike.
Have a nice day, Respekt.

...antud soliidse transaettevõtte koduleht oli registreeritud Ameerikamaal 2 nädalat tagasi...

...kusjuures, neegri elu on lihtne... kui ostja poleks juhtunud minu käest nõu küsima, et kuidas toimida, oleks ta homme juba äri ajama hakanud...

Järgmine kord, kui keegi neegri otsa satub siis võiks ikka lõpus kirja vastu saata, et annab politseisse asja. Enem muidugi võiks mingi kirjavahetus olla kas ma ise järgi ei saaks tulla käest kätte!! Ja siis ta niikuinii hakkab paukuma ja siis saadad kirja vastu, et teid hakkab uurima nüüd Euroopa inimõiguste salateenistus ja kui te juhtute petma mind siis lähete vangi :D:D:D.. Huvitav kas see lehekülg oleks veel kaua üleval ..

kle, Whitebalance, mõtle nüüd ikka enne, kui sa midagi mõtled...
"Euroopa inimõiguste salateenistus"? My ass!
"Kui juhtute mind petma, lähete vangi"?
Lapsi tahad hirmutada või? Ta ütleks sulle "Oi, sorry, massa, kogemata juhtus, aga sest pole midagi, te kandke ikka raha üle. Siis vaatame!"

Edit: Selles osas on sul muidugi õigus, et kui keegi midagi ette ei võta, ei juhtu ka midagi. Iseasi, kas see sinu kohutava nimega organisatsioon kuidagi asjasse võiks puutuda...

terv.
olen siin juba minig 5 "neegripoisiga" mulli puhunud. Rattad on üleval autoscout.de -s aga tüübid köik millegipärast inglismaal, hmm huvitav mix just inglismaal. Ei viitsi köiki neid kirju siia üless visata, sest neid nii palju juba Vähemalt ilusad pildid on saatnud ratastest on ka oma nn dokumente saadetud kuid eks teadlik silm näeb kohe ära, et mingi jamps sees ja pealegi minu puhul oli, et pass aegunud . Ja tavaliselt meie kirjavahetuse lõpus- kui ta enam töesti ei oska mu küsimustele vastata ja ainult rahast räägib olen kasutanud kommionu taktikat ja neegrid täiega (niipalju kui mu inglise kel lubab) p**** saatnud ja ei tea mis kõik "Authorities" peale saatnud). Oli ka konkreetne juhus kus pakuti pilli mis oli ka usa ebays üleval ja hoopis teise asukohaga kuid pidid täpselt samad . Ja soovitan soojalt seda [/url]http://www.whois.net/[url] asja, neid on teisigi ning sealt hea vaadata kui pakutaxe jälle mingi kahtlane trantspordi firma.
päikest
ronrix

kummaline, aga .ee domeene ei leia whois üles...

Minu esimene neegrisõbra lugu siis:

Hetkel üleval kuulutus TL1000R müügi kohta:
http://www.motoscout24.autoscout24.de/P ... brbzbtigwz

Kirjavahetus neegripoisiga (esimene kiri lõpus):

Neegripoiss:

Hello

I'm in Liverpool,Uk and the bike is in great conditions. I never abused the bike or ride it on rain. The bike was garaged all time. No scratchs, dents or technical defects on the bike. The final price of 2700 Euros included the transport cost to you.

If you will decide to buy this bike i can send it to you via Trans International Spedition. I will prefer to pay me via MoneyGram services because is very fast and is very easy to use. I have attached you some photos with the moto, so you can see the bike is in great conditions.

The payment will be sent to Trans International Spedition and not to me.
That you can be 100% sure the transaction is ok. Look here how does it work:
http://www.transinternational.co.uk/process.htm
(koduleht on päris viisakas kest)

With Trans International Spedition we can make a safe transaction together.
If you have the money in cash and if you agree to buy it let me know your full name and full address where i have to send the bike and i will try to send it to you tomorrow. I will give you 3 days to inspect the bike and confirm the transaction is completed. After you will finish the inspection period Trans International Spedition will send the money to me, and transaction will be finished!

Email me as soon as possible


Mina:

>Hi,
>
>I'm from Estonia. The transport is included in price, but transport to
>where? I must get the bike to Estonia.
>
>Please send me some more photos with better quality. If I'm buying the
>bike, then how can I pay?
>
>Priit
>


Neegripoiss:

>Hello
>
>My name is Liddament David Michael and i am from Cressington Park,
>Liverpool
>
>- England. I see you are interested to buy my motorcycle. I want to
>inform you the price included the transport cost of the motorbike and
>you will not pay any other transport taxes. The moto is in perfect
>condition and is full functional, is like new and with clear title. I'm
>selling the bike because i
>
>don't have time to ride it, i am very bussy. Let me know how if you are
>really interested for the bike and let me know where are you from. I am
>ready to sell the bike and i am waiting for your fast answer. Please
>email me in english if is possible. Contact me for more info and photos!
>
>Have a very nice day!

Mina:

>Hi!
>I'm interested in Suzuki TL1000R that you're selling. Do the bike have
>any problems?
>
>Priit

mul on see vend juba olnud, sain isegi koopia passist jne mis sest, et viis aastat juba kehtetu. Pill oli mudugi teine ja pildid on nad ka ebay.com-ist tömmatud. Aga kontrolli neid saite mis nad saadavad nende whois asjadega
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... n&q=who+is sealt leiab nii möndagi huvitavat.
ps täna sain samalt tüübilt uue, krt kas ta ei viitsi üldse maili adresid kontrollida, ma teda juba 3 korda erinevate ratastega pikalt saatnud
terv ronrix

ronrix sa ütle et tuled ise järele ja maksad sulas vaata mis ta ütleb?:P

vanal on siis kohe suu m-i täis

seda ma ütlen igas kirjas "simp", et mul sugulased 100 kilti eemal, et tulevad ja vaatavad pilli üle, siis tekib kohe mingi probleem, et ta kas on business tripil itaalias ja et ei tea millal jöuab ja söpru ka ta pole kellega minu nn sugulased võiksid kohtuda.
terv
ronrix

Ma saatsin eila talle kirja:

Hello my friend,

I noticed IC3 about your fake advertisement.

Best regards,

Priit

Praeguseni on vaikne olnud

lugesin selle teema läbi ja tegelt ka, et see NEEGER Tõmbab Kõiki üle T*ra? igakord erinev nimi ?

ja väga odavad hinnad ka sellessuhtes et sr 50 factory nt maksab eestis pea 30 kilo neegri lehel maksab 1000 Euri? Neeger on jobu

neegritel on uus nipp - tehing läbi motoscoudi

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1. I will send the bike to motoscout24.
2. They will inform you that they have the bike and you must pay for it .
3.You will send them the payment and they will relese you the bike .
4 .You will relese the bike and have 2 days time to test it and check it .
5 .After the 2 inpection days will be over /motoscout24 will relese me the money

Regards and reply me asap if you are interested
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kui praegu endale motoscoudist exc-d otsida siis leiab kaks erinevat 450-t., millel identne foto kaasas

teavitasin motoscouti ka

edit: pool tunnikest hiljem on identse fotoga kuulutused maha võetud. Neegril hakkas südametunnistus piinama

Noniii...mis arvate kas tegu on neegriga või mitte



>Hello,
>I have a question about that Yamaha YZ/250F. Is this bike OK, and riding, or some parts need to be replaced?
Roger.


Hello,
>
>I`m glad to see that you are interested in my bike.
>The price is Euro 1450, it's a low price because I wish to sell it fast.
>This is a one owner bike with low miles. The bike was purchased from
>Germany and was delivered to my address in England. This bike was never
>dropped, wrecked, dented, scratched or abused. This bike is in excellent
>condition and has always been garage kept and adult ridden. Also included
>with the sale of this bike is two KBC Racer One helmets that match the
>bike, one is large and the other is X-Large. The only reason I am selling
>this bike is due to a knee surgery that prohibits me from riding. I have
>described the bike to the best of my ability and I think the buyer will be
>very pleased with his/her purchase. Anyone who wishes to come and view the
>bike it is welcomed to do so. The bike is being sold AS IS with no warranty
>of any kind written or verbal. A friend told me to try to sell it on this
>german website because I can find a lot of potential buyers from all
>Europe. The bike is also for sale locally. This bike has a clear title and
>will come with all original manuals and keys.
>If you need other informations regarding the bike then please contact me
>and I will answer in very short time.
>I only take in consideration those buyers who are really interested in
>buying the bike, to be sure that I don't spend my time with endless
>disscutions,or pure curiosity.
>
>Thank You!!
>Lon

Thank You for so fast reply. I'am very interested of this bike. I have
searched almost half a year new bike to myself, but haven't found yet with
so good price. I live in Estonia(I guess You don´t have no idea where it
is....next to finland,russia and latvia).Now comes the problem, how do we
get this bike to Estonia and how You get money from me. One way is to use
DHL...But also i know one mx rider who is right now in England. But what
town You live ?
Roger.

Hello again,

I am in Manchester and also the bike.
Because I am quite busy I found out a company which will help me sell the bike easier. They will handle the shipping, storage, payment and everything else.
Let me explain you how this company works.Once we set the details, I will close a contract with them for shipment and insurance and also hire them as a third party service. They will come,pick up the bike,crate it and store it.
When they will have the bike in their custody, they will contact you with the terms. They will ask for a deposit (35%-50%) before the bike is delivered. They will also give you payment details needed to complete the deposit.
After the transfer is done they will put the money into a secure account and they will continue the shipping. After delivery is made you will have a 5 days trail period to test and inspect the bike. Within those 5 days you will have to inform the shipping company if you want or not the bike. In case you decide to keep the bike you'll have to pay the rest of the money to them, in case you will not keep it, they will come and pick up the bike and also refund you with your full deposit. You will not be charged for shipment in case you decide to return the bike. You are not bind to this deal in any way until the trial period is over. Only then you will have to decide if to keep it or not. Also,if during the trial period the bike will sustain any damage, that will bind you to the deal, forcing you to buy it.
What I wrote above is a part of the contract terms. As I said before, the shipping company will contact you with the full deal details.
If you are interested get back to me with your name and your address so I can send the bike to you. I will pay all taxes for shipping and handling .

I'm waiting your answer.
Kind Regards !
Lon